Thats why I say give it to the xenoes. They won the round, so they get to vote if hijack should happen. Because lets be honest here, if we give it to BOTH marines and xenoes, then the vote to not skip hijack will always be in the right of the majority party. That being the marine side 4/5 times (the rare groundside wipe is the only way xenoes outnumber marines). So if most marines want hijack to happen, then hijack will happen. If they don’t want hijack to happen, hijack won’t happen (all with xenoes essentially having 0 voice to play).
While I am for voting and equality for all, making votes this stacked is voting tyranny.
Marines can “vote” by winning groundside afterall, and it is a 100% vote for skip.
Just make it so only living people can vote. Or xenos, really.
Why not? You led your team to victory, you deserve to make the decision.
If people hate hijack so much, then it should be skippable for at least this reason. Do you think forcing players to sit through the bonus round will make them like hijack?
But sadly devs are incredibly stubborn on this issue, so discussing this is really pointless. All we can do is to wait for a new dev team that will emerge eventually (it’s gonna be even worse).
Of course not, in every single thread about hijack I always showed support for option to skip hijack, from everyone voting, trough aCO and Queen making the decision, to just Queen.
Even without the stance of “improve, don’t remove” I think that devs are very much aware that if there was an option to skip hijack, most of the people would just do it.
Because this isn’t a tactical decision the xenos are making or something, this is whether or not the entire server has to play through hijack, which has zero effect on the next round. The Queen “leading the xenos to victory” does not influence my opinion that everyone should get a say. Making it a poll of the entire (living) server pop also legitimizes it more than it just being what the Queen thinks, you can say for sure that it’s what the majority of people actually want.
Is it truly the devs too, or just host’s “Ahhhhhh I’m improooooving, i’m a improoooover, don’t remoooooove, don’t be a remooooover”? Any Discord gossip?
I just wish it was on WO last stand for both sides. Need different fob layout but it’s more fun for both parties. I have never seen a WO round where I seen in looc or ooc or deadchat where anyone have said “I wish hijack was a option”
When we have 3-4 hours round I don’t mind hijack, because it’s a small portionof the round. But 1 hour-ish round I see a problem because most of the round is honestly prep, very little action time. And rest is honestly the waiting time for hijack. There I atleast see a issue. When hijack and prep have become a major part of the round, I don’t think any hijack changes can fix that, hijack is a sub part, not a main part for me.
The downside is that you remoooooved instead of improoooved.
It wouldn’t really be a choice, as almost always it would lead to skiping the hijack as majority of the players will want that even if hijack was decent, just to start new round faster. Personally I’m in favour of aCO and Queen being asked if they want to hijack and if they both agree, it happens. It would give two players with possibly the most ammount of knowledge about their faction’s current strenght. If both Queen and CO think that they have a good chance to “win” hijack, then chance that it will be just a slaugther for one, or the other side is much lower.
There really isn’t any argument against hijack being optional. I remember someone saying that Hijack is core feature of CM, or something like that. And that argument I dismissed by saying that around 50% of the rounds don’t have that “core” feature present due the fact that marines major win that many rounds.
To be fair, a feature can be a “core” part of a game, and it may not always appear.
(Although I’ve always felt hijack is like playing Team Fortress 2 wherein you’ve pushed the cart to the end and have won, but you have to spend the next 6 minutes fighting the losing team in their spawn area, and they can fight back, instead of just starting the next match)
I’ve always felt giving the Xenos the choice on proceeding or declining to attempt hijack would be the fairest way to proceed. By doing this you account for all possible contingencies, such as if marines retreated too early, or if the xenos really don’t feel up to the task, or they just want to get to the next round.
I don’t think giving it to solely the xenos is a good idea, everyone has to play it so everyone ought to have a say. It is simply objectively more fair, because the majority of people get what they want, and it’s not like this decision affects the xenos long term in any way, as the round ends immediately after hijack with no continuity, nor are Marine players and Xeno players different enough as demographics for one to “not have any say”. You are all CM players and you all have equal say as every other individual player still in the round.
