Warfan1815 - Commanding Officer Application

Commanding Officer Application - Warfan1815

What is your BYOND key?

Warfan1815

What is your Discord ID?

warfan

What is your timezone in UTC?

UTC-00

Player Name You Use Most?

Warris ‘Haig’ Fernsby

Ban Appeals, Whitelist and Staff Applications:

Warfan1815 - Moderator Application - Pending Mod Application

Have you been banned in the last 3 months?

no

If so, why?

Command Knowledge:

How familiar are you with command positions?

I know it virtually in and out, have got a bit antiquated with some features over time (I still haven’t worked updating the tacmap into muscle memory yet)

I do have a stronger preference for shipside command, I’m not really a fan of having to mix combat with command (although I enjoy both separately) so I have spent more time as a CE, SO and RO (when that was a thing) than spent time as SL

Hours in XO:

80 hours

Hours in SL:

20 hours

Character Information:

Why did your character decide to become the CO of a ship?

Born in 2130 in the New Albion colony to a mineral mining tycoon businessman. Warris ‘Haig’ Fernsby would spend his early adulthood watching the disgraceful inadequacy of the the RMC during the core conflict versus Hyperdyne Systems, which in 2151 would later lead to the formation of the ICSC. Following the death of his father, Fernsby would sell his mining tycoon to Weyland Yutani so he could startup a munitions manufacturing business (“Fernsby Munitions”) to help the 3WEs be able to reasonably supply a larger RMC force. Because of his lack of interest in his company, he would remain a majority shareholder but would leave day-to-day runnings to other people as he pursued his childhood desire for adventure amongst the stars. Fernsby would obtain a commission after a period of training in 2153. He hoped, in his words, to “avenge the honour of the empie and ensure security for it long into the future” and he believed he would best accomplish this aim by being in command.

How did your character attain the position of CO?

Warris would spend the next 10 years in the RMC, with a disappointingly low amount of combat. He would eventually see first action as a 1st lieutenant of a mechanized company during the major battle at Plymouth in the Tienstein Campaign in 2163 and would eventually be promoted to the RMC major of the company after the death of the previous major when UPP shocktroopers boarded the company’s ship and nearly overran the CIC. After that, he would once again suffer nearly a decade of inactivity, growing more bellicose against the hesitancy of the RMC to ever really get involved in any conflict or even run patrols outside of the core systems. He would begin to write derisively of the RMC structure and would gain a small following in the New Albion press for openly criticising RMC readiness.

His company would be called up to suffer another humiliation, following Australian food riots in 2172 a rebel insurgency had sprung up in Australia. He would then spend the rest of his 10 years fighting on the western seaboard of Australia, fighting in very inhospitable conditions against a guerrilla threat. He would grow increasingly frustrated by how few companies were near to support him, and how his job was a wack-a-mole of putting down insurrection after insurrection only for them to pop back up in places he had cleared. This would all resultingly be sent back for publication in the New Albion press. Following the nuking of Canberra in 2182 by the UA, he would derisively call out a lot of senior officials and began to derisively call the 3WE “the UA’s pet bulldog.” Following such comments, senior officials had had enough of his bellicose criticism, and as a form of punishment he would be selected as one of the RMC commanders to be transferred to the USCM (as a way to ostensibly improve the USCM’s ability to fight insurgencies on 3WE colonies in the frontier.)

It is under such inauspicious circumstances Warris Fernsby was made a USCM CO.

Provide a short story of your CO.

The dull throb of the company’s column of light tanks and apcs shook the very insides of all the men strapped in at double rows in the back. Slightly forward, closer to the two front seats, RMC Major Warris ‘Haig’ Fernsby sat attentively at a short, sharp commander’s desk loaded with a massive array of CRT televisions - the image of most of the screens displayed the arid shrubland that surrounded the dirt road the column was trundling down. Perched precariously on the small amount of the table not taken up by CRTs, a cup of tea (apart of a fine china tea set stored god knows where) had its liquid undulate wildly. It was clear that the suspension of the vehicle was wearing out, and that this vehicle would soon enough have to go back to the HMS Hastings for repairs.

A thick northern voice, coming from lips under a dark green beret, broke the silence: “Australia. What a bloody shite hole.”
“Yes that’s quite enough Lance Corporal Terent,” came a commandeering sergeant’s voice from the row opposite “Under no other circumstances do people get paid for getting a sun tan, so count yourselves lucky.” A light chortle came from the rest of the APC.

“Almost there, Major Fernsby, sir.” Came a crackly voice over the radio comms.
In an assured, short, sharp voice Fernsby responded “Very well, vehicle crews, I want the tanks to fan out into the flanks while the APCs push a spearhead down the road to the entrance of the weyland offices. Captain Adams and 2nd Left-tenant Matthews (Fernsby made a point of emphasising the British pronounication of Lieutenant) you shall have order of the tank crews, direct them to surround the complex with the armour in first platoon encompassing the left surround, and the armour in second encompassing the right. I shall have order of the men as we spearhead into the complex. A reminder of the rules of engagement, command has allowed us to use indiscriminate fire to clear out the complex - we need to sweep the insurgents out before they run away with any of the dammned company’s mugs it would seem,” A light chortle was made by a few in the commander’s APC. “Once more unto the breaches chaps! Make ready!”

The tea cup was drained of its worbling fluid as Fernsby sipped it in a hurry.

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As many of the vehicles wheeled closer and closer to the complex the height of the main building was made apparent, with its company logo and concrete facade. The fence perimeter of the complex was nearly reached by the vehicles, when from inside there came the distinct shouting of “open fire!” and a mismatch array of AP weaponry and rifles began to appear from the complex’s windows. Some appeared in the very heights of the building, but many-a-rifle poked out from the bungalow office windows of the rest of the complex, all were facing the column.
“Where the bloody hell did they get those!” Fernsby shouted, touching his headset to broadcast his voice “everyone out of your vehicles dismount!” as bullets kept pinging off his vehicle. “You heard him, everyone out!” resounded the sergeant in the back, and Fernsby put on his helmet to join them. The APCs had dismounted just outside of the fence, and although a few RPGs came landing behind the vehicles, the very poor aim of the shooters seem to result in very few of them actually causing any real damage. Nevertheless, the complex was bristling with guns of all kinds and they produced a cacophony of disparate loud bangs. As the men dismounted though, a measured tempo of burst fire began to answer the ineffectual fire of the insurrectionist’s weapons. “Cover fire” “Reload” “Supress that man over there!” And other tactical commands all came like static over Fernsby’s comm set, yet the assault had only begun.

“Right, Sergeant Price! There’s a reason I asked your men to come with me in the command APC, let us be the spear head and storm that front door.” Fernsby pointed resolutely over a weathered concrete carpark, containing burnt out wrecks, and some trucks the insurrectionists no doubt used to get here, to two double doors and a glass facade to the main office’s reception area “Let us get under that dratted Weyland Yutani sign before the aussies know what’s the matter!” Fernsby commanded, resolutely, touching his comms set “I shall be going in with 3rd platoon’s 2nd section, all men, including the tanks, give us covering fire and advance behind us!”

Rubble rained down from the building as autocannon shells and tank shells hit stubborn blocks of insurrrectionist shooters. The 3 round clang of so many rifles sometimes harmonized over screams, orders, and cries, but other times produced dissonance. The command APC, from which Fernsby had dismounted, followed Price’s section and the Major as so many people endeavoured to take cover behind it. A man, running with some UPP rifle or another, in a boonie hat, came running out of one of the bungalow offices flanking the main building, no sooner had he begun making a run for the cigar-smoking Fernsby then he was cut down by the steady fire of the RMC behind.

“On my mark, let us get in that building before the aussies start throwing molotovs down ontop of us!” Fernsby said, as the APCs slow trundle came under the shadow of the monstrous Weyland Yutani building “three, two, one move it chaps!” And the men broke through the glass facade with all the speed afforded to them, while Fernsby lightly jogged, his back straight, pushing open one of the double doors with an assured swing.

Fernsby ducked under the receptionist’s table, which had no doubt seen better days, and began to give orders as rifle fire still rumbled outside while indoor screams and fire produced a much louder noise: “Price’s section has made a clean insert into the building, all other men are to clear the Bungalow offices before making an approach on the main office!” Fernsby drew his trusty service revolver, which he found similar enough to the Webley revolvers he grew fond of shooting in his youth on New Albion, he knew Price could be trusted to clear the lower floors, and he would have to shoot a few aussies, but what really interested is what he would find at the very top…

“We’ve almost reached the top Major!” sounded Price after a long period of time had passed. The Major, who had mainly been spending his time coordinating entry into the main building in the stairwells, began his climb to the upper floors that not been cleared. Up there, no doubt, was some dammned high-ranking pencil pusher, and the most important question was “was he still alive?” Fernsby hoped he wasn’t.
“You fucking brits!” came an aussie insurrectionist running down the stairwell with a machete of some kind, and Fernsby’s revolver made quick work of him, as he slumped backwards onto the stairs by sheer concussive force of 3 rounds in the chest. Trailing behind the major was Sergeant Price and that jokster northerner Lance Corporal Tenent in the blackened gear and green berets of the RMC. Luckily, what proved to be immediately on the penthouse floor was nothing but a discreet little hallway, an overturned receptionist desk, and a hole in the wall made by a shell that no doubt ended the life of the dead aussie next to it. Fernsby began to steal himself for what array of people might be on the other side of the rich-red doors. He hand loaded his revolver to capacity.

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“Price, left side of the door, Trent, right side”
“Aye sir” they said in unison.
He began to count on his fingers “5… 4… 3… 2… 1…” Fernsby burst in with the full weight of his body pushing the door open and two sets of eyes immediately greeted him. Two of those eyes, coming from a fat, balding man with a white button-up shirt, red tie, and burgundy tweed waistcoat, showed such a terrible fear, as they undulated wildly. The other two eyes, appearing slightly above the fat man’s (for he was slightly short) came from a man with such steely resolve, dressed in improvised body armour that covered most of his features (indeed, later on Fernsby would recall how he looked like a spitting image of Ned Kelly.) Nothing was overtly human in the shapely figure, expect his determined, blood-shot eyes.

Trent, being one to fire prematurely, immediately dumped a 3 round burst of hollow point (as it was understood hollow point was the best ammo type for dealing with insurrections) into the figure, luckily missing the short fat man. It pinged off the armour, and the man under that armour did not respond to it. He simply said with that steely determination, “If you want your prized pig, you’ll let me go,” as he pointed an m1911 square into the side of the fat man’s head. “Pl-pl-please” stuttered the fat man “g-give him what he wan-”
“Shut up!” bellowed the tall figure behind him, probably defening the short man, “They know what I want, they know they’re at the beck and call of the company, they know Australia has been sucked of all its life by people like you, and yet they are still being paid to protect you, and so they wont let you die. Will they?” Undoubtedly this man’s intimidating philosophical ramble with this thick aussie accent could have equally come from Ned Kelly.

“Now my dear boy!” Fernsby said, dropping the serious tone to a familial one, as he lowered his revolver “That may be the case if we were a PMC company! But do you really think I care about this dratted fat pig?” Fernsby laughed “never have I found myself so agreeing with the formative conclusions of a terrorist, the only thing you got wrong was me caring about a person from the company!” He chortled.
“W-What?” The determined tone of the tall figure began to wilt a bit “What the fuck are you talking about?”
“Oh perhaps I should explain, you seem to be under the childish misapprehension that what you’re doing is good and just, but how naive that is! I mean good work scrounging your motly crew together, and I do thank you for taking Weyland Yutani down a peg or two, but- oh well damn… I am going to have to shoot you aren’t I?”
“What, no you won’t!”
“Yes yes… I’m afraid so.” Fernsby had a regrettable tone in his voice, as he lazily raised the revolver “I’m sorry Mr Company man sir, should’ve picked a different profession, you seem to be a nice enough gent, but for one evil to say if you shoot me I’ll shoot another evil well that’s killing two birds with one stone”
The fat, short man, made a pleading little shake of his head
“Now, come quitely the both of you… Or I shall have to kill both of you gents, my apologies.”
The once steely eyes, shrouded by an improvised armour face plate, began to dart around, and the figure slightly began loosening his grip of the fat man. “Ouh - uh urhm. Fuck this!” He turned his pistol to Fernsby, and at that moment, a single bullet from Price’s rifle went square through his temple, he dropped to the floor, limp and loose, with a loud clang of the armour. “Oh come now! Price I was very much hoping to make that shot”
A calm voice came breathing through the gas mask “sorry sir.”
“Ah well, mission accomplished…”

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The fat man, panting and out of breath, managed to pry himself from the now limp, but still clutching, hand of the scrap-heap corpse. He stumbled up, grabbing his red hankerchief and wiping all the congealed sweat from his brow “fu-fuk me…” he said in a light Aussie accent “What the hell just happened!”
“Nothing but some good application of psychology my dear sir!” Major Fernsby said like he was Sherlock, he strode up to the man and greeted his hand “Why its the oldest trick in the book! You see men like those, with deep convictions, have thought through their ideological philosophy as deep as it can go” he reassured the fat man “to try and reason with such a man… Well we would be here until sunset and I’m rather hungry!” Fernsby chortled, holstering his revolver “But yes, that ideology hasn’t been tested in the fire of emotion, a man like that - well when he is driven to the length of murder is so afraid that his ideology might be wrong that when you incense him with a senseless philosophy he goes about all confused and thinking that maybe he’s wrong. He goes out trying to find your logic, so he can cast it out of hand, but seeing as there is none he grows confused, irritated, and no longer able to apply logic to the stressful situation” Fernsby concluded, with a reassuring pat on the shoulder of short man with his dominant hand “At that point all he can really listen to is his emotions, and by riddiculing his emotions you make him likely to do something very stupid and illogical indeed.” Fernsby paused “oh but let me just say,” Fernsby smiled, casting a look down on the short man “of all the nonsense I spouted let me say this:” He paused for effect “I do hate the company.” He laughed, as the fat man’s frayed nerves induced him - again - to sweat profusely.

Command Actions:

When do you believe it’s appropriate to pardon a prisoner?

Ultimately the commander’s ability to pardon is mainly there because an arrest may cause undue damage to the operation and/or an arrest was unfairly made. When pardoning a CO should take into account the likelihood of them reoffending (as a CO may be responsible for their future behaviour) and also the circumstances of the arrest (was it done contrary to the spirit of marine law etc.) People who are unlikely to reoffend, who will waste their time being in brig when they instead can be helping the operation, and/or were arrested for reasons that do not deserve brig time are prime candidates for pardoning.

Give some examples of when you would or would not use pardon.

I would pardon if - The sole pilot officer was arrested for minor DTGP by breaking a window, which he did to test out a sidearm. I would probably pardon this person as he did the crime for a reason that isn’t senseless (and therefore he is unlikely to go and do it again) and also his release would be in the best interests of the operation.

I would pardon if - A marine trespassed into req, when no CTs were available, broke the window to the cryo item recovery room, and did it simply because he wanted an attachie and couldn’t get one because no CTs were available. Once again he did the crime for a justifiable reason (and is therefore unlikely to do it again) and also an extra marine on the ground is better than one in the brig.

I wouldn’t pardon if - A Specialist shot a marine to crit because he kept on getting disarmed by the marine. He is important to the operation, but by the fact he did it for such a dumb reason it is probable he would do it again - just because you’re important doesn’t mean you should be pardoned.

I wouldn’t pardon if - A marine broke into the corporate liasion’s office just to steal something cosmetic. He isn’t important to the operation, and also because he broke the law due to something so minor means it is likely he break the law again.

When do you believe it’s appropriate to use a Battlefield Execution?

I believe that a strict “only in extreme situations” rule should be taken with BEs. After all, in normal situations people who can be BE’d (unless the commander is groundside) can be arrested for the exact same reasons they can be BE’d. If an arrest cannot be pursued, or if an arrest would not fully put an end to why I can BE, a BE should be pursued in cases outlined by the reasons in ML:
-A threat to command
-A threat to persons
-A threat to ship or operation
Of course I’ve simplified their full reasoning here.

Give some examples of when you would or would not use Battlefield Execution.

I would BE if - A person was shouting during briefing “down with the CO! he fucking sucks!” and no MPs were immediately available - to call an MP might be enough of a delay for my authority to be reasonably undermined

I would BE if - A person was shooting their arresting MP - clearly this person can’t be arrested, so they must be BE’d

I would BE if - A person was threatening to blow up the OB cannon, or another integral part of the ship, and MPs have tried to apprehend them but have failed - an arrest might never be able to happen, and they might cause additional damage to the ship

I wouldn’t BE if - All of delta started shouting in briefing “The CO smells!” - Not only would BEing all of delta damage the operation, but also its simple DASO, the MPs can try and arrest the person who started it if they like

I wouldn’t BE if - Two people were having a fisticuffs fight and there was an MP immediately available - the MP can arrest them both, and there’s no immediate threat, only a potential threat if they somehow kill eachother after a long protracted fisticuffs fight

I wouldn’t BE if - A person went around smashing all the windows of CIC - the MPs can arrest them, in due course, and also the windows of CIC are not important enough to warrant killing someone.

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Was a good admin, also competent rp +1

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+1 Good Luck

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Personally, even though you are a recent returnee, I would like to vouch for your RP and in-game knowledge, as you were one of the few individuals prior to your leave who hosted event rounds quite frequently with a story narrative. If that’s not an attempt at establishing your willingness to RP, I don’t know what is.

On paper, you seem to have it all down, but there are some concerns about activity; You will have to probably address that moving forward on your application process.

As with every applicant I personally like to support, i’d like to ask you a few Q’s to help me feel more secure in supporting you:

1.) You have an insubordinate XO and you are a Major- Upon waking up, the XO demands ludicrous briefing times and terrible location of briefing. In addition, he is causing havoc in mess hall by spamming Tofu meals and throwing them everywhere. How would you respond to this?

2.) You are a Major. Your SO just OB’d the FOB due to them mistaking supply drop coords and the shiny OB button. Uh oh!!! Now the surviving delta want to come back up top and you are hearing rumors on comms of a mutiny spreading for the death of the SO. How would you react and respond to this?

best of luck, you got your work cut out for you

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Preference or not, SL time is important. While I don’t doubt your understanding of the game flow overall, you should make sure to put in the extra effort with groundside command via SL both to get to know how it works and to get your name known by Marines.

A good and actually unique backdrop to your character’s story. I like it.

So Warris is neither a UA Citizen nor Green Card holder… and didn’t even move to serve the USCM of his own volition?

That’s very iffy, to me. And I say that as someone with a TWE-born CO character myself. The transfer I can get- but I can’t really see the USCM putting this guy in active, independent command anywhere near the frontlines if his loyalties are shaky and unproven like that. Maybe you can elaborate on this? Or even shift things around to make more cohesive sense. Remember that you should have a backstory that makes sense to tell people when/if prompted to explain in-game.

Writing a story that isn’t set within the USCM is certainly… unique. I can’t recall if that was ever done, actually, so you get points for originality for sure.

There’s the obvious concerns I voiced above, with your transfer to the USCM - but that’s more unrelated to this story.

You demonstrate apt display of character in this, both of your own character and others. There’s a neat plot going on, and it seems you actually spent time thinking about what to write about. I do think you could have dialled back the aggressively british tones a bit, but then again, it’s set in the 3WE, so what can I say.

Incorrect. If an arrest was unfairly made or is unjust then the prisoner should call for an appeal to have his innocence proven. A Pardon automatically proves the prisoner guilty of all charges. If guilt of a crime is in doubt, advise a prisoner to appeal.

Unsure what you mean by this. If someone was arrested and brigged for reasons that are not actually a crime then this is a OOC issue 100% of the time and you/the prisoner should ahelp the arresting officer (usually an MP). Not a Pardon issue.

Acceptable. A bit stupid to do but nobody was harmed and it was harmless enough to realistically consider they won’t just go and do it again.

Realistically speaking this is a crime committed due to you, the Commander, because you didn’t delegate anyone to man Requisitions. That being said, it’s… acceptable, at baseline. What matters for this is their conduct after the arrest. If they’re showing poor conduct and are being volatile then they can enjoy Brig, really.

In most cases this can be construed and laid out as attempted murder, which you cannot pardon as it’s a capital crime. If they’re “only” charged with Assault with a Deadly Weapon then- yes, you are correct.

I would be inclined to agree.

Be very aware that MPs by their very existence rile up Marines whenever they move in for an arrest within a crowd. Round-removing someone sucks, always, but it both reinforces your authority (i.e. “stop fucking around”) and prevents Marines from forming a circlejerk of hate against MPs where they try to harass the MPs, resulting in endless delays and a potential escape. I’ve seen both too many times to count.

Acceptable punishment. Normally shouting this should be reprimanded with a warning first- but as it’s during briefing, immediate BE is totally fine.

Ayup.

An active, confirmed terrorist is valid, in my book, and if he has already escaped the MPs more than once then killing them off when you get the chance is acceptable in my eyes.

Acceptable- but remember that Briefing is when every Marine (or most, anyway) is close-by. Insulting the CO and his authority there and not retaliating in any way can easily lose you respect throughout the round. Not saying you should BE all of Delta, of course, but be aware of this.

Not much to say. Yes.

Dependable on intent. If their intent was to get into CIC illegally then their intent may have actually been far more malicious than just the DTGP. Particularly popular among survivor mains who will start shooting down your windows the moment you don’t respond to their “CO let me in, I need IFF” hails over radio.

In Summary:

I really enjoyed your creative writing parts of this application. I think they exemplify the high standard every CO should hold themselves to when it comes to character development and writing effort, and I’ve seen you in-game, so I can attest that you do actually show off this personality and background there, as well.

There remains the open question of “is this background sensible, realistically, within our setting?” as I asked you - so please do get back to me on that.

You have shown an… adequate, understanding of Pardons, if a bit on the low side for me. One of your answers contained a wrong answer, others contained unclear answers or things that - ingame anyway - would not allow you pardon someone. Other answers are just your typical, easy textbook answers like “If someone brutally guns down someone that shoved them, I wouldn’t pardon them”. That tells me exactly nothing about your knowledge about pardons because the answer to such a matter is braindead easy.

Your answers about BEs were more satisfactory, though I should reiterate that I’m not a big fan of COs that go into the application process with your bog-standard “I will never use this outside of utter emergencies”, because that in of itself is a misconception about BEs. A Battlefield Execution is more than a last resort. It’s a use of direct authority to round-end someone who is disrupting the round, roleplay, or threatening you. There’s a whole number of valid BEs that you can make, and none of them would involve an active threat to you or the ship. By dumbing it down to self-defence, you are effectively handicapping yourself. You need to be confident as a CO, and that involves confidence in handling your sidearm and its capabilities.

Overall I’m looking at this positively, right now, but am not yet fully convinced. There remain big concerns from others about your activity in-game (having only recently returned and immediately applying for CO), as well as your attitude, given your massive falling out with Staff.

As such, can you tell me why we should accept you as a CO despite you being a person that stepped down from Staff after disagreeing with their superiors about regulations and policy which you did not want to obey? We aren’t Management, of course, but the Code of Conduct persists, and if you are a person that will happily break such Codes of Conduct to “have fun” then we simply won’t whitelist you. Simple as.

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Welcome back! I am very sure you would be able to run command. +1

Commenting to agree with Misty’s statements, would love to hear a response to this and I’m sure others would too.

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On the problem with the background - Yeah I realise more properly now it is kind of not too realistic for that to be the case, I just didn’t want to have to be finnicky with the alternative but I suppose that’s fair enough. Allow me to rephrase that section that follows the Australia wars “Following the UAs nuking of Canberra, and the end of the Australia Wars, Fernsby would leave the RMC by mutual agreement with his senior officals who considered him a “trouble maker.” Returning to New Albion, he would grow increasingly annoyed about reports in the local region of colonial insurgencies. Pretty soon he grew restless of his civillian position in New Albion, once again feeling the urges of his childhood desire for adventure, and not too inclined to return to the day to day runnings of a business. He knew that the RMC were out of the question, they were far too inactive, but he had always heard reports of the USCM’s stellar performance and, although he had a sore spot over the nuking of Canberra, in his own special way he slightly admired the “yanks” for finally putting an end to 10 years of sordid conflict. With this in mind, Fernsby managed to pull some strings with his brother (who had recently achieved UA citizenship after marrying a Canadian) and managed to successfully recieve a greencard after staying in Canada for an extended period of time. From that point, he managed to contact old USCM friends from the Australia Wars, and managed to successfully recieve a commission due to his large swathe of experience (and the relative deficiency of native-born officers capable to be commissioned who were willing to take up a frontier post, due to their relatively high officer casualty rates.)”

On the pardon and BE examples matter, yeah I didn’t really give that many extenuiating circumstance examples, and my apologies for doing that, I can give additonal examples (that take into account the really niche rules - like for example not being able to pardon for capital punishment) at you request. With my intepretation of when to use BEs, yes I suppose it would pay dividends to use it in a more authoritative role, I’m just acutely aware that its a bit outside of my character’s personality to go blasting people, when MPs, admin intervention, etc, can do the role just as well without me having to go do something outside of my character. However, with your feedback in mind, I’ll be more judicious with it when dealing with people who are a threat to the round or to the roleplay around me, if only for the fact that we want to discourage such actions in a more clear-cut way than MPs or admin intervention.

On the matter of activity, I shall try to get more SL hours in this week (I’ll be honest: kind of stupid of me to do this on Sunday, as I’m less active during weekdays) and I shall also keep up XO activity (as is recommended you do.)

And finally, with the questions of attitude (over my semi-recent staff drama,) let me just say that I now consider what I did there to be a very dumb and a very crappy thing to have done. I’ve apologised, in DMs, to TTS, and I’ve removed from the forums all of my inflamatory and shit-stirring posts that really don’t reflect my opinion anymore. With the matter of “fun over regulations” that whole matter was blown out of proportion by me, and let me just say my point (even when I was making it ) was not that “personal fun” but of “playerbase fun” but that’s not even the point. The point is that TTS’ opinion (in retrospect) was the correct one. That in most cases, regulations and playerbase fun go hand in hand, and when that is not the case regulations should be followed anyway because it shouldn’t be up to a single person to decide what the playerbase finds fun. I will never have any intention, in my capacity as CO, to ignore rules for my supposed fun or the supposed fun of others, when much more fun for everyone comes from actually following the rules (as the rules exist for a reason.)

Apologies for answering Penpusher’s reply first, you fry the bigger fish first and all that.

  1. Well the most obvious solution would probably be relief of command/demotion (as what you describe is serious negligence,) however first it would be wiser (in the case this XO is new or stuff) to try to give them some orders that briefing should happen a lot earlier, that briefing should take place in a reasonable place (I’m not even that opposed to briefings in odd places, just as long as it is likely to make the briefing take place in orderly manner, as outlined in SOP) and that they shouldn’t be running off to the mess hall when they should be in CIC trying to organise the pre-op. If they apologise, and follow orders, I will let them keep their command and try to show them the proper way of doing things. If they don’t, well I will follow the demotion/relief of command procedure as outlined in the CoC/ML (for me, and for the purposes of the ML demotion clause, the XO would have had to commit a major crime - in this case it’d probably be Major Insubordination/Neglect as what they’re doing is ignoring my direct orders and/or “failing to properly organise and ensure [their] personnel are given orders.”)

  2. Firstly, the SO made a mistake so I wouldn’t BE them (eventhough the SO maliciously OB’ing the FOB is classic BE example) however they did just commit manslaughter (a crime that carries with it the punishment of demotion and 20 minutes of prison.) I would announce what has happened, the mistaken identity of one set of coords for another set of coords, and that the SO will have the 20 minutes brig timer applied and that they will also be relieved of duty - prorated down to a passenger. If this calms down the mutineers, mission accomplished, if not (and somehow a mutiny is declared - eventhough I don’t think an admin would permit a mutiny seeing as the greivance issue is resolved) I would declare red alert, open the armouries and call all MPs and loyal marines to CIC to defend against the mutiny.

I don’t believe that you believe in what you are saying. To have made such a fuss, and to have continued to do so, then to come back with hat in hand and said you changed? I don’t care about your fight with staff, quite honestly from what I’ve seen I think you were in the right and I couldn’t care less about you burning bridges with staff. However, instead of owning who you are/were you’ve, done a full 180 and the optics on that are pretty bad. Not really sure who you are, and that makes me worried.

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After reading through your reply, conversing with community members and my fellow councillors, and generally reading up on some of the stuff you were involved with before, I will sadly have to give you my personal -1 on this.

There is a definite worry with me that your in-game roleplaying style as XO interferes way too much with your communication and command skills, to a point where you’re either saying too little of use and/or saying it in such a complicated/accentuated manner that most Marines don’t even understand you. Playing a character is GOOD, but you have to make a character comprehensible. Additionally, your activity has been called into question, and I personally have heard many times that you came back to CM only a short time ago (matter of a week or two?). To see you already applying for CO despite this is a bit of a ‘whuh?’ moment for me, and as I told you in DMs, I expected you to apply for CO in a month, maybe two, to ensure you were seen and got a good grip of yourself first. You decided to skip that - and it’s not for your benefit, I believe.

Of course, I can’t skip and gloss over your recent past. I will be very frank when I say that we are NOT Staff. We don’t try to be Staff. But Staff follow regulations and stringent rules - and every CO does the same. You have shown behaviour that indicates you would rather follow your gut and do whatever it takes to entertain people than follow rules, and when confronted with the consequences of your actions, you were seen lashing out and throwing a gigantic tantrum, attacking staff and individuals. I am being told you were involved in various cases of drama even before this, as well, by individuals.

I am not saying you are being insincere here, Warfan. If you genuinely did realise you made a mistake, and want to go back- then I get that. However, it’s been less than 3 months man. Nobody, and I mean nobody, can truly take you seriously after such a giant hissy fit, only to then do a complete 180 and trying to claim you’re now a changed man. People are, and will, hold this against you for a while longer. That’s just the way it is.

What you need is time, more than anything. Show us you really have changed by not descending into what led to your brief departure from CM, and then we can talk about you earning a Whitelist, I believe. In the meantime, you can also work on what I mentioned with regards to playtime and character rp.

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That would be true, and you could argue I’m a simple flip flopper, or that I’m being insincere, but I do genuinely want to say I still believe in a great deal of what I once said, and I blame myself a great deal for blowing the “playerbase fun versus regulations” dilemma far out of proportion. Ultimately, the differences between me and TTS weren’t irreconcilable, and 3 months is always a great deal of time to think over things, to say this is a 180 really makes it appear there is a great gap (when in reality that isn’t the case.) TTS was right in what he was trying to say, and I was basically right in what I was trying to say, and the nib of it is playerbase fun is almost always in line with the regulations - regulations enable player enjoyment a great deal of the time - and when that isn’t the case sure it would be ideal for fun to be paramount, but no one man can truly be able to say what that fun is, to believe so is a form of arrogance (which I once possesed, being this high-and-mighty man who seemingly ran good events) and which can ultimately be at odds with the actual fun of players. That’s why regulations exist, not because they will get in the way of fun but because it stops people from trying to do things in the name of fun without having someone referee that call to actually make sure that is the case.

Why I did what I did 3 months ago goes beyond the hypothetical arguments of fun versus regulations though. It can be explained not as a temper tantrum but more as a problem of my own hubris. It was a few weeks after Morrow and Harry left and I genuinely believed that I would usher in some sort of change - for the better of the players - by being apart of those seemingly “wronged” by staff, that I could seemingly do everything better and easier than everyone currently in charge. It was my silly belief, back then, that I could be a straw that broke the camel’s back, so frustrated I was with the system that I seemingly believed I could be apart of making a better one.

What happened after I left staff was I realised that isn’t the case. That I wasn’t this special, great person. I was a person who could run good events, but by no means does that I mean I had any right to go about saying I was the only representative of what the players actually wanted, or had a pulse on what they believed was fun. You shall have to excuse me for despicable actions but when I say that now isn’t me I do mean it!

What I do want to do now is have fun, and try and make sure as many other people as possible are having fun. I want to do this, nowadays, not by saying I am some sort of representation of the average player, but by actually listening to other people’s opinions, and respecting a system that seems to enable the fun of most of the people playing (with the ocassional hiccup.)

If you can allow me, in this way, through this app, to continue to work towards the fun of the players, and myself, as apart of a system, not against it, I shall be grateful.

I won’t be replying at length, but let me just say (for other peoples benefit) Penpusher called me unhinged on my staff app, and when I asked them about it, saying I had lost a great deal of respect for them for being so unprofessional, they conveniently -1’d this app citing things like activity (eventhough they assured me my activity wasn’t an issue before I applied.) For penpusher to once be so positive about my application, only to be so negative about things they themself reassured me about in DMs is just very duplicitous of them, and very unbecoming of someone in the CO council. Needless to say I won’t be replying to Penpusher’s inevitable response to this, and I’ve informed fortelian.

Just when I thought I was out of the drama machine, it pulls me back in…

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takes big man to admit something like this mad respect

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I would love to see Fernsby command you have my vote +1

Sup! I’ve had Warris as my XO on some rounds so I thought I should drop a vote here.
From my ingame experiences with Warfan, he’s a very chill dude and a good roleplayer. As command roles, they are very competent from my point of view.
I’ll ask you some questions before voting.

  1. What is the job of the CO OOcly in your opinion? To make sure the marines win the round or make sure the marine players have fun?
  2. You late joined in a round as CO and see that the operation was a catastrophic failure. The XO is locked up in the CIC while marines are outside with their guns out ready to storm in. What would you do in this situation?

Best of luck!

Thanks for the warm complements! As to your questions:

  1. I would say that fun is the main focus, however for the majority of marines winning is one of the main things that is fun (as if you are losing, you will have people going perma and not killing xenos, which isn’t fun from a marine perspective.) I will of course be trying every round to win, however I would love to try out more fun and unique strategies on occasion just to stop rounds from being too same-y.

  2. Its a very difficult question, but ultimately under any case a mutiny is the worst possible outcome for the marines so I would have to try and put an end to it. If the XO has committed distinct crimes, I would relieve them from duty and have them arrested (by the MPs presumably protecting him in CIC) to try and stop the bloodshed and resolve the issue, however more often than not mutineers mutiny against the XO even if they haven’t committed a crime, therefore I would try to put an end to it on the side of the XO. First I would try to call on all channels for the mutineers to stand down, and whatever caused the mutiny I will handle it peacefully. If that doesn’t work, I would gear up, using the spare gear vendors in req or squad preps (which I presume CO has access to) and try to rally marines against the mutineers and attack the rear of the mutineers assaulting CIC.

I actually can’t remember if, seeing as the major becomes the “acting commander,” any mutiny against an XO that a major joins halfway through is null and void (as per mutiny rules), but for all intents and purposes I imagine that isn’t the case or wouldn’t be enforceable if it was.

I have one gripe from what i have noticed only one round (the only round i have observed you in command spot) where you had access to announcements, you were SO though but this was recently, i dont know if you do it still, but here it goes, your announcements were all words but no concrete information more like commentary, and one specifically was very verbose and i guess it was attempt at some kind of being different sometimes it’s just counterproductive and considering half of people are not native english speakers i don’t think they would understand it. I will elaborate you said and i quote “Bravo has failed to retain stagnancy against xenomorphs at south LZ”. It’s like commentary while i did understand that you said Bravo has failed to defend against xenomorphs south of lz, that was all you said. More like verbose commentary, i suggest you be more direct in issuing orders and giving objectives than wasting announcement CD on such redundant commentary that is all.

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I’m satisfied with your answers and from my experiences with you I think you’d be a good CO. I don’t really care about OOC staff drama and in my opinion I don’t see how it interferes with the CO whitelist in this case.
+1. Good luck chap

Can ya post hours? We all know you’ve been around for a minute, not concerned in that regard, but want to get a sense of how much time you’ve put in since your absence, how up to date you are, and (just for me) if you have punched the numbers (SL) up since posting the app.

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