imagine my surprise when in fact people are banned and it has a reason, this thread should be locked for drama/outrage farming
And I want to expand on that, the big difference is how many people are affected and what it affects
You have an entire discord of people actually undermining the game for everyone else - possibly a few thousand on/off again players, by cheating. Contrasted with some flippant inflammatory remarks that shouldâve been met with a warning to keep it to yourself if you canât be polite. Being polite in particular seems to be something this person struggles with, so maybe a little more might be warranted, but a straight up community ban is not just going over the line, itâs practically a moonshot into orbit over the line.
I wonder, if I had access to all the private discord logs of the staff, how long before I found disparaging, even bigoted, remarks about other people? Even calling someone a bigoted slur like ret*****, for example?
This is the kind of nonsense you start to see left and right once youâre trying to police everyoneâs speech. Headache after headache after headache. It gets even worse once you have the âprotected-classâ who seem to otherwise be immune to punishment for saying/doing everything theyâre banning other people for, start infighting and slinging this stuff at each other.
We didnât have to go down this road, but people in charge want to police everyoneâs speech. Youâre gonna be dealing with this kind of quagmire forever. I wish upper management had fun playing the game instead of having time for this stuff.
In fact the forum post isnât even mentioned in that DM as an example of transphobia, or mentioned at all, itâs just another post in a pile of toxicity.
You literally cannot because they just banned R-word and almost banned deltard, if it wasnât for the pushback.
Is there an ACTUAL MP CORD? Please invite me
okay now you have to explain to me why its not a shitcord + WL ban, but a general ban instead
why can they not keep playing the game itself when IC or in OOC ive never seen them make spicy takes?
I think the way to ensure transparency is having actual procedures that include a step-by step method for doing these things like community bans, even if purely informative
I am not very good at communicating this idea, but steps inside the communjty ban process, thaf include, for example, some sort of locked informative post like âPerson X has been CBanned for Yâ, or something similar
It being decided in shadows makes it very easy to be wary of staff
Ps: I like that the whole fucking reason that the community started fucking IMPLODING was because of the Rword ban
heres a tldr
âim transgender i try to fiscally support people who have different experiencesâ
âi dont think anyone wants to see this change. also i dont think anyone really cares that youâre transgender, and its kinda weird to bring up because someone called you broâ + some talk about how its really not a big deal in discord
âholy crap we have a code t here time to COMMUNITY BAN this transphobeâ
its silly i used to be transphobic before (im good now trust) and like i dont think that was grounds for a community ban at all
lilpenpusher (misti slopwell) and myself havent really gotten along in the past and weve butted heads before but they dont deserve a cban lol. say what you want, but they clearly have a passion for this game based on the close to 1grand theyve spent on artwork for their OC and them being a CO Councilor. this is like the cop shooting a guy reaching for his wallet when he gets pulled over
tldr the drama is cool but i need one of you forum goblins to drop a batch of fries in the fryer and make me my big mac please
it is no longer really maintained or people joining, mostly neverplayers from the old mp days, it was part of the first posts in a while
then answering the misinformation earlier being spread by hatethisengine that was just a mistake by Grim, as stated on the discord NUMEROUS times that they only wanted to ban the R word and grim thought that also extended to delt(lowiq)
stop spreading misinformation, stop forming lynch squads jesus christ
@Flatulent why the fuck do I have to explain anything, I donât have access to their records or why they do anything, but community bans are so insanely sparingly used by CM staff that it takes some extreme conduct to trigger them - ergo I trust them, iâve never really seen a misplaced cban
Yeah no idea how to type what I want to type without two or three individuals trying to cop me a cban but itâs funny that thereâs literally whoâs in this thread slandering misti and the people defending misti are the people who donât even like him.
What of this warrants an instant c-ban? Especially if by transphobia they mean what we saw on the screenshots. Toxicity in whitelist announcements? Lmao, what? Just remove them from councilor if they abuse the announcements. I wonât even comment on frozen drama, because youâd need to ban a lot of people if you qualify what happened as harassment.
LOL bro I am spreading misinformation by citing the fucking announcement in #announcements? I am not really going to read all of the grimâs messages where he backs off from an unpopular change. If it was just a mistake, they would clarify it immediately, but they did indeed discuss this internally, that was confirmed by forrest. Really, âspreading misinformationâ? Oh my god.
Both host and vice-host confirm that deltard is banned but they maybe will bring it back (after the pushback). Like really?
Newest change - Deltard - #13 by forest2001
Newest change - Deltard - #17 by Frozentsbgg
4 no raisin!
But hey itâs cbans so less work for you
What are CBans really ? What qualifies for âwe do not want you back in any form for quite a whileâ ? It seems kinda loose, as many things recently seem fitting for a Cban
CBan for doxing seems to make sense
But a CBan for multiple relativelly smaller things with no warning of âhey ya gonna get CBannedâ
I am curious as if we have anything that says âThese following actions merit a CBanâ ?
common sense, a cban is a decision that someone is simply no longer welcome in the community, it doesnât have checkmarks and paperwork, cm is not a democracy and management can simply exile you if they do not think you are adding anything of value to the server
this isnât a court of law, this is a privately owned server that you are playing on, you have no rights, your outrage does nothing, they can do anything they want
cbans are so rare I doubt they have an internal clear cut checklist for it but instead just do internal discussions with a unanimous or vast majority vote after assessing evidence, including probably stuff we havenât seen nor ever would
it is how it works when we have removed pedos, doxxers, hackers, and toxic elements from the community in the past
But in jinxed case, they got cban for (re)posting 1 img.
Zero clicks.
Examining someone in-game is two clicks.
You wouldnât say that calling your boss âSirâ or a nice older lady "Maâamâ politics. âPoliticsâ is legislation and paperwork, you just want a word that makes being polite to a certain group of people fundamentally different from every other time you pretend to like people you donât.
It takes more effort to rack a shotgun. This is not a hill worth dying on.
oh thats neat, didnt know you could do dat
Of course itâs up to the owners to do what they want with the server. But they didnât ban discussion yet, so I am in right to say whatever I want about the rules implementation. Escalating instantly to c-ban over something such petty is just dumb and I can call this out, even if it wonât change anything.
Weird analogy, no one is going to put you in prison for calling or not calling an old lady âmaâamâ. And if someone was pushing for this, they would definitely get some pushback, wouldnât they?
Itâs one actually you can shiftclick (half of my chatlog is me shiftclicking everyone I talk to)
